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Can you collect Social Security and a pension at the same time?

You can retire with Social Security and a pension at the same time, but the Social Security Administration (SSA) might reduce your Social Security benefit if your pension is from a job at which you did not pay Social Security taxes on your wages.

There are two different kinds of pensions: covered and noncovered.

  • A covered pension is a pension based on employment that withheld Social Security taxes from your wages.

  • A noncovered pension isbased on employment that did not withhold Social Security taxes from your wages. These employers are typically state and local governments or non-U.S. employers.

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How much will my Social Security be reduced if I have a pension?

  • If you have a covered pension (meaning you paid Social Security taxes on the wages you earned from the employer), the SSA will not reduce your Social Security benefits.

  • If you have a noncovered pension and you have fewer than 30 years of other substantial earnings on which you paid Social Security taxes, then the SSA uses the windfall elimination provision (WEP) formula to adjust the Social Security benefits you receive. This reduction applies to retirement and disability benefits (SSDI), but it does not apply to survivors benefits.

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To calculate Social Security retirement benefits, the SSA uses a complicated formula that applies three different percentages to up to three different portions of a person’s lifetime average indexed monthly earnings (AIME). It adds the results together to determine your monthly retirement benefit at full retirement age, otherwise known as your primary insurance amount (PIA).

Income range

Percent applied to your PIA

$0 - $1,174

90%

$1,175 - $7,078

32%

$7,079 and above

15%

The windfall elimination provision reduces the first of those percentages from 90% to 40% if you spent fewer than 20 years in jobs on which you paid Social Security taxes. The SSA adds 5 percentage points for every year past 20 years that you have earnings on which you paid Social Security tax.

Years of earnings on which you paid Social Security tax

Adjusted percentage applied to your PIA

30 or more

No adjustment (remains at 90%)

29

85%

28

80%

27

75%

26

70%

25

65%

24

60%

23

55%

22

50%

21

45%

20 or fewer

40%

The SSA cannot reduce your Social Security benefits by more than half of the noncovered pension. For example, if your noncovered pension pays $500 a month, the windfall elimination provision won’t reduce your Social Security retirement benefits by more than $250 per month.

The SSA has a windfall elimination provision calculator that can help you understand how much your retirement benefits will be reduced when you begin receiving your monthly pension.

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The SSA considers a pension countable income that will affect your eligibility for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) in the same way that any other kind of income would.

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Exceptions to the windfall elimination provision

If you have a noncovered pension, the Social Security Administration might not reduce your Social Security benefits if any of the following apply to you:

  • You have 30 or more years of substantial earnings under Social Security.

  • You’re a federal worker first hired after December 31, 1983.

  • Your only pension is for railroad employment.

  • You’re an employee of a nonprofit organization that was exempt from Social Security coverage on December 31, 1983.

Retirees are most likely to encounter the first of these exemptions (30 or more years of substantial earnings).

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When to take Social Security if you have a pension

The main rule for deciding when to take Social Security if you have a pension is to maximize the combined total amount you will receive. In some cases, it may not be beneficial to wait to take Social Security retirement benefits if a future pension is going to reduce the size of that Social Security check.

For example, let’s say you’re eligible for a pension that doesn’t start until you reach age 65, and your Social Security benefit at age 62 will be $1,500 per month. If the Social Security Administration will reduce that $1,500 to $1,000 once your pension starts, you'd receive an extra $500 for 36 months, or $18,000, before the Social Security Administration reduces your check due to your noncovered pension.

Alternatively, you could wait until you turn 65, when your Social Security benefit rises to $1,700 per month. Because the Social Security Administration will reduce that by $500 due to your pension, your payment would be $1,200 a month ($200 more than if you took benefits at 62).

Dividing $18,000 by $200 tells us that 90 months (7.5 years) after you turn 65 is the age (72.5 in this case) at which the cumulative amount of Social Security and pension benefits you may receive if you file at 65 equals the cumulative amount you may receive if you file at 62. It signifies the point at which it "pays off" to wait to take Social Security if you also have a pension.

This breakeven point can help you decide when, based on your life expectancy, lifestyle needs and other considerations, it's best to start taking Social Security benefits.

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Social Security and pensions for spouses and widows

For family members who might receive spousal benefits or survivors benefits based upon your earnings record, there is another rule to factor into your calculations. The Social Security Administration reduces Social Security spouse or survivor benefits by two-thirds of the amount of your noncovered government pension.

For example, if your family members are eligible for an $800 spousal or survivors benefit but you receive a monthly government pension of $900, the Social Security Administration will deduct two-thirds of your pension ($600) from the spousal or survivors benefit. The check in this example would be $200 after the government pension offset (GPO) is applied. In some cases the GPO may completely cancel out the spousal or survivors benefit.

Frequently asked questions

Are there exceptions to the GPO?

Yes. The GPO won’t reduce your Social Security benefits if:

  1. Your government pension isn’t based on your earnings.

  2. Your government pension is from a job where you paid Social Security taxes and at least one of the following applies:

    • You applied for and were entitled to Social Security benefits before April 1, 2004.

    • Your last day of employment at the job was before July 1, 2004.

    • You paid Social Security taxes on your earnings during the last 60 months on the job.

  3. There are a few other less common exemptions for federal employees who switched from the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) to the Federal Employees’ Retirement System (FERS) after December 31, 1987, or who were pension eligible in the early 1980s.

Are foreign retirement benefits considered noncovered pensions?

Yes. Foreign retirement benefits typically are noncovered pensions because you didn’t pay Social Security taxes on those earnings. Sometimes a person can combine their foreign earnings with their Social Security earnings to receive one single benefit. These are called totalization claims, and they are quite rare.

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FAQs

Retiring with a pension and social security - NerdWallet? ›

You can retire with Social Security and a pension at the same time, but the Social Security Administration (SSA) might reduce your Social Security benefit if your pension is from a job at which you did not pay Social Security taxes on your wages. There are two different kinds of pensions: covered and noncovered.

Can I retire with just a pension and Social Security? ›

If you are covered by both your state or local pension plan and Social Security, you pay Social Security and Medicare taxes just as you would for any other Social Security covered job. You will see your earnings on your Social Security Statement record.

Will my Social Security be reduced if I have a government pension? ›

We'll reduce your Social Security benefits by two-thirds of your government pension. In other words, if you get a monthly civil service pension of $600, two-thirds of that, or $400, must be deducted from your Social Security benefits.

Does a pension interfere with Social Security? ›

The Social Security Administration doesn't view a pension as earned income . So you don't pay FICA taxes on your pension, and it doesn't add to your earnings record. That means a pension can't add to your Social Security credits, and it doesn't enter into the PIA formula or affect your benefit amount.

When should I take Social Security if I have a pension? ›

You can start receiving your Social Security retirement benefits as early as age 62. However, you are entitled to full benefits when you reach your full retirement age. If you delay taking your benefits from your full retirement age up to age 70, your benefit amount will increase.

How much will my Social Security be reduced if I have a FERS pension? ›

We won't reduce your Social Security benefit amount if you only performed federal work under a system such as the Federal Employees' Retirement System (FERS). Social Security taxes are withheld for workers under FERS. Social Security benefits are intended to replace only some of a worker's pre-retirement earnings.

How much will my Social Security be reduced if I have a private pension? ›

Windfall elimination provision

The WEP may apply if you receive both a pension and Social Security benefits. In that case, the WEP can reduce your Social Security payments by up to 50% of your pension amount.

Does my pension count as income against my Social Security? ›

We don't count pensions, annuities, investment income, interest, veterans benefits, or other government or military retirement benefits.

What type of income reduces Social Security benefits? ›

When we figure out how much to deduct from your benefits, we count only the wages you make from your job or your net profit if you're self-employed. We include bonuses, commissions, and vacation pay.

At what age is Social Security no longer taxed? ›

There is no age at which you will no longer be taxed on Social Security payments. So, if those payments when combined with your other forms of income, exceed one of the two thresholds, then you will have to pay at least federal taxes on either 50% or 85% of the benefits you receive.

How do I get the $16728 Social Security bonus? ›

Have you heard about the Social Security $16,728 yearly bonus? There's really no “bonus” that retirees can collect. The Social Security Administration (SSA) uses a specific formula based on your lifetime earnings to determine your benefit amount.

Why is it smart to take Social Security at 62? ›

"If you live to be older than the break-even age for having waited, you will have lost out on the higher payout you would have received by waiting. However, you simply cannot predict how long you will live, so we advise taking Social Security as soon as you stop working."

At what age do you get 100% of your Social Security? ›

The full retirement age is 66 if you were born from 1943 to 1954. The full retirement age increases gradually if you were born from 1955 to 1960 until it reaches 67. For anyone born 1960 or later, full retirement benefits are payable at age 67. The chart on the next page lists the full retirement age by year of birth.

Can you collect both Social Security and a state pension? ›

Yes. There is nothing that precludes you from getting both a pension and Social Security benefits. But there are some types of pensions that can reduce Social Security payments.

Does a pension count as income for Social Security? ›

Pension payments, annuities, and the interest or dividends from your savings and investments are not earnings for Social Security purposes. You may need to pay income tax, but you do not pay Social Security taxes.

Is pension enough for retirement? ›

A pension can supplement your retirement income, but it likely won't be enough to pay for all of your expenses.

Is it better to get a pension or Social Security? ›

Pensions are tied to specific employers that can go bankrupt. Social Security is a government-backed program that may have less of a risk of default. Social Security amounts automatically adjust for the cost of living and/or inflation, while pension plans have to deliberately increase future benefits.

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