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There are three major rules to know before applying for an American Express credit card:

  1. Once in a lifetime bonus
  2. 1 in 5
  3. 2 in 90

One thing to be aware of, if you are not currently an American Express customer, don't apply until you get targeted for a great offer. A lot of Amex card members are frustrated because they aren't targeted for great offers like new customers, but it's a user acquisition strategy for Amex.

The highest offer I've seen is 100,000 bonus points for The Platinum Card® from American Express. Terms apply. CardMatch is a common way to find increased offers. Again, it depends on your timing if you want to hold out for the offer or not. The higher offers are usually targeted and not publicly available.

Before we dive into the core rules, there are a few prerequisites to be aware of to see if you’re eligible for welcome offers.

American Express updated their terms of service in 2018 by adding “anti-churning” language. Amex reserves the right to “clawback” a welcome offer if they detect any “gaming” activity like peer-to-peer payments, cash equivalent gift cards, and closing accounts early.

Peer-to-peer (P2P) payments is when you send money to a friend via a service like PayPal. However, if you make a purchase from a retail merchant with PayPal, this is a normal transaction. Amex has access to third-level data so they can distinguish between P2P and merchant payments.

Cash equivalents are another type of purchase that can raise a red flag. These can be in the form of Visa or American Express gift cards purchased from a drug store or any other retailer that sells them. Again, Amex has access to third-level data so they know when you’re purchasing cash equivalent gift cards.

Closing a new account before the 12-month mark is another red flag. When you try to close an account that’s less than a year old, it seems like you’re only opening the account for the welcome offer. Closing the account early means that Amex reserves the right to claw back the welcome bonus. Keep the card for at least 12 months and you can cancel or downgrade afterward if you don’t want it.

If you sign up for a card and you get a pop up saying that you're not eligible for a welcome bonus, you will not receive one.

There are 2 theories:

  1. You’re blacklisted from Amex from doing one of the activities in the previous section about “Welcome Offer Clawbacks.”
  2. You’re not putting enough spend on your cards in recent months; Amex doesn’t see you as a person that needs another charge or credit card if your cards current cards with them are idle.

If you've ever had a certain Amex product past or present, regardless of if you received a signup bonus, you will not be eligible for the signup bonus again. The sole act of having X card means you will not be eligible for the signup bonus.

For example, if you had the Amex EveryDay® Credit Card in the past and canceled it (or product change), you would not be eligible to receive another Amex EveryDay® Credit Card intro offer if you applied for it again in the future.

Another example would be if you opened the Hilton Honors American Express Surpass® Card and downgraded it to the no annual fee Hilton Honors American Express Card. By downgrading it, you lose out on the 80k to 130k Hilton Honors bonus that's pretty normal for the Hilton -- easily 1 night in most of their expensive properties like Bora Bora, Maldives, or Koh Samui

Technically, we have seen some offers that don't have this once in a lifetime language, but it's not common. I would argue that this is the biggest core strategy to work around -- especially for new people thinking about upgrades/downgrades.

However, cards like the Amex Platinum card have different variations, which are all considered different products. You could receive the signup bonus for each variation of the Amex Platinum card.

Some data points suggest that you can only have 5 American Express credit cards at one time, regardless if it’s a personal or business card. Your mileage may vary.

If you’re currently at the 5 Amex credit card limit and you want to open a new Amex credit card, you’ll have to call in and close an account in order to open a new one.

Again, this is rule only applies to credit cards — 4 personal and 1 business, or 5 business credit cards— whatever other combination you want.

The 5 credit card rule is key depending on your card play style and strategy. if you're optimizing for cash back, then there's less to worry about. If you're hunting for bonuses, then you don't want to "lock up" one of your slots for no reason.

You can only get approved for one credit card every five days.

The 1 in 5 rule doesn’t affect charge cards, so you could apply for one credit card and X charge cards on the same day and be fine. Keep in mind that you’ll have to manage the minimum spend requirements.

Applying for multiple American Express cards doesn’t have a big impact on your credit score because once you have one Amex card, they typically only do soft pulls after that. Your mileage may vary.

You can only get approved for two credit cards every 90 days. This means that if you apply for a third card within the 90-day window, you'll automatically be rejected.

These rules apply to credit cards only and not charge cards, so you can apply for as many charge cards as you like.

American Express typically doesn’t match welcome offers. For example, if you apply for the Delta SkyMiles® Gold American Express Card with a 30,000 welcome offer, and the next week it increases to 60,000 points, Amex is unlikely to match it.

Given the rules and restrictions, the optimal strategy would apply for a charge card and a credit card on the same day to combine hard pulls. This means you will only have one credit inquiry, as opposed to two.

If you don’t currently hold any American Express cards, I recommend checking CardMatch to see if you can get targeted for an elevated Platinum card offer.

Be aware that if you have more than a $35,000 cumulative credit limit with Amex, it will trigger a financial review. Your accounts will be frozen during the financial review.

Amex will not match any increased offers. For example, if you applied for a card with a 50,000 point offer, and the next week a 60,000 point offer pops up, they will not match the offer.

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FAQs

What is the 5/24 rule? ›

The 5/24 rule is an unofficial policy that dictates that Chase won't approve you for its cards if you've opened five or more personal credit card accounts from any issuer in the last 24 months. Put simply, the number of cards you've opened in the previous two years will affect your approval odds with Chase.

Is CardMatch safe? ›

Yes, CardMatch is safe. CardMatch safeguards your personal information and data with 256-bit encryption. There's also no impact on your credit score since it's a soft credit check.

What is the annual fee for American Express Platinum Card? ›

How Much is The Platinum Card's Annual Fee? The Platinum Card has a $695 annual fee. The fee is paid once a year, and the math works out to about $58 a month.

What is the 2 30 rule for Chase? ›

Chase 2/30 rule: Too many new cards in one month? Some credit card experts believe that Chase is also likely to decline new card applications if you have opened two credit cards within 30 days. This is known as the "2/30 rule." Because I had just opened two new cards, Chase was reluctant to let me open another.

Is 4 credit cards too many? ›

It's generally recommended that you have two to three credit card accounts at a time, in addition to other types of credit. Remember that your total available credit and your debt to credit ratio can impact your credit scores. If you have more than three credit cards, it may be hard to keep track of monthly payments.

What credit score do you need to get a Disney credit card? ›

Suggested credit score

You'll likely need at least a good credit score (670 or higher, according to FICO) to get the Disney® Premier Visa® Card. The Disney® Visa® Card is probably easier to qualify for if your credit score isn't as high, and is likely available to those with fair credit or better (580 or higher).

Is CardMatch free? ›

CardMatch is a free online tool that provides prequalified or personalized credit card offers based on the basic financial information you provide. CardMatch works with a variety of major card issuers, so it can help you find the best possible welcome bonuses.

Does CardMatch work with Chase? ›

What card issuers do you work with? We bring you card offers from some of the industry's most trusted issuers, including American Express, Discover, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, U.S. Bank, Citi and Chase.

Is the points guy CardMatch legit? ›

Is it safe to use? Yes. The CardMatch tool uses bank-level security to ensure your personal information is safe.

What is the most prestigious credit card? ›

What is the most prestigious credit card? One of the world's most prestigious credit cards is the Centurion® Card from American Express*. Though there may be other cards with more elaborate benefits, those cards are kept well under wraps.

Does closing a credit card hurt your credit? ›

Credit experts advise against closing credit cards, even when you're not using them, for good reason. “Canceling a credit card has the potential to reduce your score, not increase it,” says Beverly Harzog, credit card expert and consumer finance analyst for U.S. News & World Report.

How many credit cards should you have? ›

Credit bureaus suggest that five or more accounts — which can be a mix of cards and loans — is a reasonable number to build toward over time. Having very few accounts can make it hard for scoring models to render a score for you.

How to check if you are under 5/24? ›

How do I check my 5/24 status? Download a copy of your free credit report from one of the three bureaus (Transunion, Equifax or Experian) and count all the credit card accounts that you've been approved for in the last 24 months (also count closed accounts). Add up all these credit card accounts to get your 5/24 score.

How to beat Chase 5/24 rule? ›

To avoid the Chase 5/24 rule, wait to apply for a new Chase card until some of your recently opened accounts fall outside the 24-month window. Prioritize applying for the Chase cards that offer the most value to you.

How long should you wait before applying for a new credit card? ›

It's a good idea to wait at least six months between credit card applications to protect your credit score and avoid exceeding certain card issuers' restrictions. Several applications submitted within a short time frame could damage your credit score for a period of time.

Can you get around 5 24 rule? ›

While you may hear the occasional story of someone applying for a co-branded card above the 5/24 limit and getting approved, don't count on being the exception to the rule. There's only one confirmed way to bypass 5/24, but it requires a targeted invitation.

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